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AderfosFX – :
4160 Tuesdays Who Knew involves a curious opening of grass and strawberry before yielding to a rose-dominant heart and eventually a mix of green tea, woods, vanilla, and vetiver in the base.
The green strawberry opening is somewhat pleasant but admittedly seems out of place, an unfamiliar pairing. Fresh yet slightly off in the opening, the rose provides some familiar comfort in the heart, and ultimately the dry down is pretty agreeable, the lone provocateur being the green tea.
It’s a moderate performer, and as a scent, isn’t overwhelmingly sweet or acerbic at any one time, and is relatively easy to wear.
Certainly not among my favorites from the house but not a bad fragrance, and certainly reflective of Sarah’s creativity and range, just perhaps not something that I’d especially aspire to wear, nor would I particularly prefer it on someone else. Surely it wins points for uniqueness, though.
6 out of 10
CagoRackCah – :
It’s a wonderful and I think pretty accessible fragrance. Yes, who knew geranium, tea, strawberries and rose would make such a harmonious blend. On the opening you do get quite a blast of the geranium note followed closely by the green tea and a touch of rose. The geranium does quickly ease off. It now has this warm yet dry grassy ambience bolstered by the grass and vetiver. You finally get the woody/resinous base peeking out.
I can’t say I get vanilla or amber gris but that’s my chemistry for you.
This fragrance will intrigue those within sniffing distance. It will surround you in a floral, slightly grassy airiness that is backed by warmth from the resins and wood notes.
This is one for folk who don’t like rose scents. It’s for the nonconformist out there.
I get good longevity and sillage.
virusss – :
This is a clever handling of rose and one that has seen me drain my sample in 2 days. Rose smells so different in perfumes; many I hate but some I just love and this is one of them. It does start herbal and green, which again is not something I would lean towards, but the smoky tea notes and the strawberry adds real interest and stops it feeling too bright or clean and green.
I do also find that berry notes can get overused in 4160 Tuesdays – they seem to be some of the house favourites – but actually here I find the note well-blended and it works with the tea and florals to make the rose seem juicy.
This is a lovely, intriguing, mysterious rose scent but with a day time feel. It finds a different path to tread from the rose + amber/patchouli/oud scents that are better for nights.
YOUNATAN – :
I love rose in all incarnations,but I’m not so sure about grass with strawberry. As many Tuesdays frags I’ve tried, I like this one and it’s fun and enjoyable to try but not quite what I like? Just as vanilla and tonka in Lush, straw/raspberries get too much voice in Sarah’s stuff for my liking.
But for a non rose fan this could as well do well as it’s well put together.
LOKY – :
I tried this blind and my first thought was “Maraschino cherries?” I’m guessing it’s the strawberry but to me this smells vaguely sweet and plasticky. There’s no rose but I can’t smell geranium either. Maybe some chemical is going wonky on me?
pletcheryne – :
I’m in love.
I understand that Who Knew? was intended as a rose scent for someone who dislikes rose scents. As someone who loves roses of all kinds, from roses and ouds to delicate citrus-rose blends to candied Turkish-delight style roses, I need no such conversion. Who Knew? is a fabulous twist on rose, with delicately smoked green tea, peppery geranium, and lots of lovely green things.
This version of rose is drier than it is sweet, at least at first. I’ve mentioned tea already, but the opening reminds me strongly of the green tea with dried rose buds that I occasionally purchase from a specialist tea shop in Covent Garden. The top notes are floral, but not too sweet, so I can see how this would appeal to someone who dislikes the current trend for fruity, jammy roses. More sweetness slowly appears as the scent develops and after a few hours I’m left with an unexpected whisper of caramel.
Who Knew? shares several elements with 4160 Tuesday’s Centrepiece, particularly the green tea, cedar wood and faintly animalic undertones. However, Who Knew? is more herbal and floral, compared to the gourmand Centrepiece. Though I wouldn’t say no to a bottle of either, of the two I prefer Who Knew?, with its immediate feel-good green-floral burst.
This is a wonderful choice for anyone who wants a rose perfume that isn’t generic or too sugary-pink. A full bottle is at the top of my wish-list already – and I still have more 4160 Tuesday samples to try!
denis-nizamov – :
Geranium note has been on my radar for quite a while… and the opening shows a lot of it…I was in heaven…but then it slowly faded and totally disappeared to give way to a non-geraniumy base. Don’t get me wrong the base is OK – although not nearly as spectacular as the opening. But from my experience I’ll possibly have to deduct that geranium is just as fleeting note as the citruses. Too bad.
rhhp – :
Just been testing this and have to say I hate the initial scent but after it dries down I enjoy it more and more! I don’t really get strawberry but a very woody, savoury note at first..assuming that is the grass? After that note passes, the rose and geranium come forward to form a pretty, bright scent that has good lasting power and moderate sillage. Looking forward to testing this more and more!
bbbtttjjjccc – :
I approached this fragrance with some trepidation as I really dont like the rose geranium note. I have grown them for many years but I still cant handle that so familiar nasal piercing smell! I swear I even smell pickled gherkins with the initial spritz! My fears were unjustified as once more Sarah worked her usual magic.
The fragrance very quickly settles and there remains a wonderful dry, herbal, tea, rose creation that lasts for hours. What an imaginative, refreshing new take on the “rose” fragrance.
This would be a perfect fragrance for everyday wear.
ilmiro – :
Immediate geraniol blast, tangy, earthy, lovely. One of my favourite notes and essential oils. I get whiffs of strawberry, rose and woods. The sharp fresh green-ness at the opening gives way to mellow sultry rosey scent. Not full on rose like I usually love, but still beautiful. Another take on rose. When my rose collection dies, withers or dwindles then this will make a wonderful addition.
Marjorie35 – :
4160 Tuesdays is a new house to me, so i’ve only tried two of their scents….so far. This is perfume entertainment at its best. I generally despise ingenue rose, so am happy to report Who Knew is the unrosiest rose I’ve ever encountered. This opens with the feeling you’ve just gone back to childhood. The strawberry fields are freshly ready for harvest, so you can’t resist sneaking in to craft a few mud pies and snack on a few forbidden strawberries. The breeze is gently wafting around your head on this warm early summer day, and you can just catch a tiny whiff of the wild roses blooming at the edge of the field. You sneak a nap under a nearby tree and awake just as dusk arrives, and the woody grasses and trees around you emit their final goodbyes to the setting sun. Lovely!
Ironically, I tried this in my upper arm, next to the late stages of vintage Arpege, and they are exceedingly complementary…like my fun loving child meets the lady I’ll become. Both deserve a place on my perfume shelf. Who Knew is decidedly full bottle worthy.
AxeL1902 – :
Green tea & geranium…
This is my first perfume from the brand 4160 Tuesdays, and from what I’ve read I quite admire the founder and creator and the attitude of this independent brand, so I had quite a few expectations beforehand. Needless to say that yes I do like this one.
The story with Who Knew? is that the person this was created for did not like rose perfumes, so the challenge was to present something which would appeal to her… and it worked! Hence the naming of the perfume Who Knew?
The scent opens up with a bitter green blast of bergamot, green tea & cut grass. Immediately it’s very masculine and a little sharp and harsh. Going by the opening alone, it may be a little off-putting to some, but slowly a really nice drydown starts to appear. I get the earthy smoky vetiver, and a combination between rose and geranium. This itself is a tried and tested combination in perfumery, as the geranium has spicy, lemony and rose like aspects, so the rose here is given “sharpness” or “crispness” by the multifaceted geranium (or pelargonium). Another perfume with such a pairing comes to mind, Rossy de Palma/Eau de Protection by the infamous house of Etat Libre d’Orange. Here there is no earthy patchouli with the geranium & rose, but rather the dry vetiver which keeps it from becoming too sweet or typically “rose-like” in any way.
However it’s not completely devoid of sweetness, as I do detect a hint of strawberry which works well with the rose to bring out the sweeter aspects. I find this one straight-down-the-middle unisex. For some it will be too masculine, but I disagree. We are told that traditionally vetiver was once used prominently in female-marketed only perfumes, usually abundant in the “chypre” category. With Who Knew? we again return to this classic green floral mix evoking older creations when “green” perfumes were a trend in female-marketed perfumes (the examples out there are almost endless). I don’t think this one will be for everybody, I think the brief for this one was “lapsang souchong tea with rose petals”, I would instead venture to say that this is a very bitter, almost over-steeped green tea at play here, with the rose around the edges. Never the less a nice creation and one which I would wear, especially as the drydown is very well done and pleasantly surprising compared to the opening. One to try first, and for people who don’t like their rose perfumes too singular.
olyusik79 – :
Another enigmatic scent from Sarah.
I’m not sure whether she is a genius, undeniably conveying complex themes and juxtaposing notes or she’s just a clumsy perfumer throwing the kitchen sink at each creation and hoping for the best.
A rhetorical pondering because either way, art is art and it’s not my place to speculate.
I hate gender labeling I really do but this is leading towards the ‘too’ feminine for me at least in the opening. I love tea and judging by the notes here you’d have thought this was a big fresh, interesting tea scent. The only thing I can speak to which may account for a unisex quality is the woodiness. It has a very sweet fruity, floral berry opening with geranium then green grassy note, then dry woody notes poke through as they do with many perfumes from this house even smelling a tad musty, like old paper.
This has to be the combo of cedar and vetiver but perhaps with some tea too?
It’s settled right down now and I even get some sandalwood coming through…Who knew? has a bit more sanity about it than some creations.
I was perhaps a little hasty saying it was feminine, just the opening maybe and I’ll be honest, feminine or not I really love this right out of the bottle. The drydown is nice too and it lasted quite well.
I’m positive about this one.