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mityus23 – :
I was supposed to love this.. so I’m sad it didn’t work out. I gave it so many chances but I kept getting a strong vanilla candle wax. I pretty much only wear gourmands but i couldn’t handle how sweet this is. Lostmarch has excellent customer service though.
Getto – :
Immediately sprinkled is wrapped in a delicious new that reminds a lot of the smell of an exquisite baked cake.
Definitely a sweet and delicate scent, not discounted.
It would be perfect if it just did not disappear in a short time, because the persistence is not high!
Perfect for the day, but also to indulge as a cuddle before going to sleep 🙂
Too bad that he can not find it on the market..I told me he went out of production .. otherwise I would recompile for sure!
gundin59 – :
This is my school-starts-scent. I’m working as an educator at a primary school. Tells confused, excited, insecure, tired six-year-old children, first day at school behind them: follow me, I tell you what to do, trust me… Who doesn’t trust the smell of semolina pudding, apples and vanilla…? Also later Lann-Ael makes ill-bred obnoxious brats use terms like ‘thank you’, ‘please’, ‘you are welcome’ and prepubertal goats become sweet, cuddly little girls again. Sounds manipulative? Yes, is also a bit exaggerated – but often seems to work. Proofed and tested the last eight years…*g*
yanysjia – :
This is the most perfect, comforting, delicious scent. For the first 5 minutes. Then it’s gone. Such a shame, because the fragrance itself is perfectly composed vanilla comfort goodness. I’ll echo what everyone else said and agree that it smells like cereal with milk. But the longevity is SO poor – worse than any perfume I’ve ever owned – that it makes this scent unworthy of buying. Very expensive for 5 minutes of fragrance. I’ve tried everything to make this last longer – spraying on clothes, hair, lotion, skin – everything! Nothing works. It just dissipates almost as soon as it is applied.
kamile4ik – :
Where can I buy this? It’s no longer on their site or Luckyscent
Tripolly – :
UPDATE: Karl Lagerfeld Liquid is nothing like this. It’s much more masculine, thick and bready/spicy, and not sweet.
UPDATE: La Danza delle Libellule is very similar but with better longevity and sillage, as well as a more prominent red apple. Highly recommended.
I blind bought a full bottle since I couldn’t for the life of me find samples. I better love this, I thought, and I do! First sniff was instant love and swoon. There are many wonderful perfumes, I’m always surprised when something is this thoroughly special. This starts with a sweet citrus, like lemon curd. It shares some DNA with Honey I washed the kids by Lush. If you have and like that one, you should absolutely layer these two. I agree that it has a Froot Loops quality to it, with warm milk. The milk is nostalgic and reminiscent of childhood. This vanilla is not grounded, powdery, deep or natural. It’s light, so sweet and airy, innocent, cakey and childlike. Lann-Ael is so very unique and a must try. Longevity is frustating and disappointing though, for such a delicious scent.
domoviku – :
This is wonderful! It’s such a sweet, cozy scent, but not heavy at all. If you’re a lover of vanilla but feel like it’s more of an autumn or winter scent, this is the solution.
The beginning is a bit like a fruity cereal indeed, but once the apple note fades it’s a creamy, milky, vanilla dream. It smells like vanilla ice cream. I’m seriously considering a purchase of this beauty.
rooportuart – :
Nope. Nope. Nope. This does not work for me at all. Smells like the air that escapes from a box of apple cake that was forgotten in the back of the office fridge for three months when you inevitably check what it is. My nose finds it revolting.
colya-coca-cola – :
The good: This is a lovely fragrance. It is very true to the listed notes: vanilla, hay, apple, wheat and milk. The apple is probably the least noticeable. I agree with those who mention that it smells similar to cereal or oatmeal with milk and sugar. The vanilla here is foody, but it isn’t obnoxious or cupcake like at all. It’s very creamy and subdued. There’s a light and airy quality that keeps it from being a heavy gourmand.
The sad: This fragrance disappears almost as soon as is applied. Five minutes after I spray it, I have to literally press my nose to my skin to detect it at all, and even then it’s very faint. I like this fragrance a lot, but I would be reluctant to get too attached to it because it would require almost constant reapplication to be detectable at all.
chp660elipseskism – :
This is so delicious I could eat myself ! It is seriously addictive if you are into gourmands. It has a vanilla based and truly a fruit loops flavor that I haven’t smelled anywhere except in the cereal itself. It makes me feel like a kid . As edible as this is, charming and delightful , it isn’t all positive. This perfume has one or the worst possible lasting power and silage. It disappears so fast that you need to respray extremely often to be able to enjoy it. I haven’t payed money for it, as I was lucky enough to get it in a swap with a wonderful member here, so I spray with abandon and love it to the max. However, if I was to actually spend my money for it, knowing how pricey this is, I wouldn’t probably be giving it a glowing review, since it is so very weak, quite the contrary . But it’s a swap so I am not thinking thinking of anything like value to price ratio and I can just love it and say what a wonderfully delicious fruit loops cereal scent this is .
Deseabbabow – :
This is a beautiful scent. It really does smell like sugared hot cereal! Although they don’t smell similar, I’d put this in the same comfy/sweet/gourmand as Ginestet Botrytis, but I already own FB of Botrytis and I think it’s a little more versatile (might not want to go out smelling like hot cereal, as pretty as it is).
ivancrash – :
I tried this because I’ve read here that it smells very similar to “La Danza delle Libellule” which is a niche perfume that I ADORE but because it’s so expensive I never buy.
Well, that is true! The two fragrances are pretty similar even if this one doesn’t have a note hierarchy so it lacks a bit of magic transformation. It costs a little bit less and it turns on the same mood.
The “bread with butter and marmalade” feel is there, especially at the beginning with the opening notes. Then the fragrance sits into a warm honey-vanilla dry down and that’s where it resemble to “La Danza delle Libellule”.
I would say it is a good cozy bedtime scent, to watch a movie under the wool blanket or to take an Early Grey tea with friends.
Overall It is a good fragrance, smells edible, but after a while it stays really attached to the skin. But keep in mind that this is an Eau de Toilette! 🙂
Sebastian46 – :
This is all fruit loops and milk on me, but I love it.
terrmin – :
I like this! I’m usually against very sweet scents, but this one smells like a fresh homemade apple-pie in a very good way, so unlike all the gourmands around that simply smell like candy industrial factories.
the hay comes out later and it smells fresh.
It calls to simple real pleasures from childhood and it has a vague sensual edge, yet I’m not too much into edible perfumes for feeling sexy, so I’ll pass on this. Not my thing in perfume, but a lovely one and very longlasting.
idioniuttreeM – :
I blind blought Lann-Ael based on reviews. It arrived in the mail, I tore it open, sprayed, sniffed and said, “Mmmmm…mmmm…yum…how CUTE!” about 700 times. It really is adorable.
I thought this would smell more “dusty”, like hay and a baker’s kitchen with flour everywhere, but instead it instantly reminded me of a homemade lemon bundt cake with confectioner’s sugar icing drizzled on top. Lann-ael is not all baked-goods sweetness, though – milk and wheat notes add a unique and comforting smoothness. My husband, never knowing about this fragrance before, was happy to say it smelled like, “That cereal you have to eat quickly because it’s not good when it gets soaked by the milk.” (He meant General Mills’ Golden Grahams.)
My only hang up: Lann-Ael really doesn’t last on skin or clothes. I’ll probably blast through a bottle quickly because it is so feeble (and because the scent addictive!) If only this fragrance lasted (a lot) longer and projected even a bit – it’s so cute, I want everyone to smell it! 🙂
derun.filipp – :
So snuggly; it’s the ultimate soft, cozy, comfort scent for Autumn. Wear it with jeans and soft cream-colored cashmere sweaters. Wear it apple picking. It conjures up images of almost too-perfect Autumnal Americana. It’s almost catalogue-boring, but it is so, so yummy and smooth that you just don’t care.
For those who know Apple Jacks cereal, it definitely smells a little like them in the opening, but much less artificial.
Temiwrare – :
Spraying Lann -Ael we can imagine one of these magical evenings just before Christmas when you are involved into preparations recalling easily some happy, childhood pictures. Lann Ael is like a plate of freshly baked biscuits smelling with vanilla and citrus flavour put next to a glass of hot milk.Mother calls it`s time to go to bed. Yes, a tale or evening story will be told if you clean your teeth first:)
Second picture taken straight from Hallstrom`s Chocolate movie -it`s gently snowing, not to make huge, white caps on the trees but only to refresh a landscape.Small cafe or confectionery in the suburb :people are friendly chatting and telling Xmas wishes. Santa Claus who is eating biscuits asks if they were polite enough to have a gift ;)?
There is something warming, uplifting your spirit in this beautiful scent.
It`s not complex perfume but very cozy, comforting and gourmand in its style.Vanilla, milk, some fruity flavours. Enveloping and building an atmosphere of safety.I can`t detect any green ingredients in Lann -Ael.A clear similarity to Danza delle Libellue and Dulcis in Fundo by Profvmvm.But first of the mentioned is much more savory and Danza is more gentle, fruity with coconut undertones.
Staying power of Lann Ael is rather weak, with moderate sillage for the first hour.It dissappears quickly.A bottle interestingly designed and like a perfume itself manufactured by Lostmarch. Can be also used as a room spray of course not only at Christmas time.
Dimitry – :
So I just have to disagree with the whole breast milk thing. Sorry. If I had seen that before receiving a sample and loving it, I would have avoided this at all costs. Thankfully that isn’t what happened. To be clear, I have a son, I don’t have an issue with breast milk, I just don’t want to buy it and wear it.
Before I saw the notes in Lann-Ael I thought it had a caramel quality. Like a soft, less overpoweringly sweet version of some of my gourmand favorites. It’s strange to see the list of notes afterwards. The milky quality reminds me of the milkyness in Prada, and though I’m not a big fan of Prada, I am a fan of Lann-Ael. So picking it apart to fit the notes I can smell milk and grain, with a caramely vanilla. It could remind me of cereal, but I prefer to stay with my initial impression and simply enjoy it. If you own any sweet caramel scents you may well find Lann-Ael full bottle worthy. Certainly it’s worth checking it out.
katia.efremova2011 – :
Breastmilk!! I know this for a fact because I’m nursing a baby right now and I smell like this 100%. Not a bad smell, it’s sweet and a little musky but it is the identical smell to breast milk.
carpinteyrocss – :
Beautiful, beautiful, creamy desert like fragrance. Just yummy. But it is fleeting which is so frustrating. I have spent a lot of money on fragrances that are gone the minute you spray them. I even checked my clothes, nothing. I wish I could find a beautiful, vanilla scent that has longevity.
varfol – :
Porridge, delicious, warm and sweet porridge. You can actually distinguish the wheat (which gives the oat-porridge felling to the concoction) with milk and vanilla.
It is a very close-to-skin fragrance, doesn’t have much projection and lasting power is very poor, but I really think is worth it.
sanekproffi1 – :
When I dabbed this on from my 1mL sample, I was immediately reminded of a barley candy that I used to eat as a child, and also a couple of sweet gourmande perfumes that I like. I guess the sweet barley note I’m smelling is probably a combination of the milk, hay, and wheat notes, because I cannot recognise any of these notes distinctly on me (I’ve never actually ever smelled hay or wheat). You can smell the vanilla, but only barely.
I really like the perfume, because it’s relatively gentle on the senses, partly nostalgic, and also partly reminiscent of perfumes I love and own. It’s like the country cousin of Cinema YSL (city cousin) and Diptyque Eau Duelle (suburban cousin lol). Love it!
aoe043speagoessenda – :
This is an interesting scent for sure. The cereal note comes out first like a popping grain kernel. A tart and bright apple follows. The savory grain note vanishes almost immediately on me, leaving a faintly mealy apple scent, which lasts about a half hour before ultimately vanishing entirely. Points for creativity but ultimately not something I would want to wear as a perfume even if it lasted.
hrach – :
If horatio magellan crunch has a signature scent then this is it…this smells like captain crunch in vanilla milk with green apple crunchberries. Total comfort scent.
SnotowhokNank – :
I wanted to add my review because of a huge difference between my sample and the decant from a fresh bottle.
This is in no way a reflection of the site who sent me the sample and the splitter of my decant. My sample was vanilla milky deliciousness. I don’t always like milky perfumes, as I find them to not work on my skin so well. This was working nicely and quite a comforting scent. So I ordered a decant from a very reputable splitter and a good friend.
I got a floral fruity top note that barely went away. I couldn’t detect any vanilla! I thought something was wrong, either with the perfume or my nose! I asked the splitter for her thoughts. She also said yes, floral fruity. I think even she was disappointed with it and also agreed it didn’t smell like her sample either (and our samples came from different sources).
What does that mean for you? You may get a different top note from your sample than from your full bottle or decant. Just be aware of that. The splitter thought maybe the top notes just fall off when it’s decanted into 1 ml vials or something to that effect.
I thought about leaving my decant open for a few hours or a day maybe, but that made me nervous. I may do it anyway because I’m not enjoying my decant and I want the Lann Ael we are reading about here! Blow drying your skin a little may help too, I will try that next time.
Anyone else find this happening to them?
den–999 – :
Cookies! 🙂 Shortbread cookies!
komi11 – :
Lann-Ael is the essential cereal fragrance. All humour aside, I actually don’t mind smelling like a breakfast food.
It’s milky, it’s vanillary and quite a fun little gourmand. The buck wheat note is what lends this fragrance its cereal quality, and the apple note provides a subtle hint of tart sweetness. All in all, Lann-Ael is quite an inoffensive fragrance, easy to wear and enjoy.
Lann-Ael is no doubt a quirky little scent, something that will surely appeal to gourmand or vanilla lovers, however I agree that the price is a little high. I think if anything, Lann-Ael is the kind of fragrance that will appeal to younger women, so it would be wise to sell it a lower price, a price that they are willing to jump at.
Lostmarch is quite an obscure niche brand, but a fragrance house that I rather like. Lann-Ael used to be stocked in Australia, however I haven’t seen this fragrance in many years. It is unfortunate that so many fragrances come and go.
I will no doubt be wearing my sample more now that I have grown accustomed to it. It’s rather uplifting and comforting. The sillage and longevity are not bad either. I wish Lann-Ael was more well-known.
queelearp – :
Hmmm… this scent is, well, interesting. I can’t say it’s different from what I expected, but I guess I’m just not really impressed with it on my skin. To me it smells like a baby’s breath after eating cereal, or a bowl of cereal that has been sitting out for a couple hours. Now that’s not necessarily a bad thing. It is indeed comforting. It’s a milky, cereal scent with a noticeable but quiet green apple note. It’s actually interesting, and I don’t hate it, I just don’t know why anyone would pay $85 to smell like this. There are probably a million things I would rather smell like than this. Sorry, just my two cents! And like others have said, your nose fatigues of this scent quite quickly, so it doesn’t appear to have staying power (although if I smell something else for a minute and then smell my arm, the scent is back)
JuttaMcwet47 – :
First spray: sweet cereal and milk. It literally smells like a bowl of cereal. But not in an I unappealing way.
Dry down: less cereal and more milk and apples. Very softly sweet and creamy. Nice and light for warm weather.
After 2 hours: A nice sweet cream scent, with hints of grain and fruit. If I had to relate it to something, it smells like a bowl of oats in heavy cream, sweetened with honey. Very soft and sweet.
I would recommend this to people who tend to like oriental smells and want I try a gentle gourmand fragrance before they commit to something much stronger.
bwj859elipseskism – :
Spicy-sweet, cinnamon apple-y, warm-creamy, earthy and crisp. Very simple and uncomplicated; yet delicious and addictive. I get compliments of the “yummmmm” variety whenever I wear this one, and it lingers nicely and softly on clothing. For me it’s like flip-flops and denim shorts as opposed to stilettos. Just as attractive—but for different reasons.
agn – :
Got mine on sale. Glad I did – it’s a bit much to pay for something with only slightly more complexity than a cheapy chemist vanilla edt. Smells very much like fresh baked vanilla cupcakes. I usually love fragrances with a sweet foody smell but this is just too much like food! Might use it as a room spray when I sell my house.
hameleon14 – :
Crazy crazy crazy price for a perfume with no projection or longevity. The scent itself is pretty plain too. I literally poured my entire sample all over my body and my forearms and I couldn’t smell it at all. Well that’s not totally true. For the first 5 minutes it smelled like an orange Starburst candy. The apple is blended pretty well with citrus to make a slightly tangy opening. From then on, the perfume vanishes. If I press my nose to my skin really hard I perceive a very unexciting sweet scent with maybe a touch of cinnamon. Even if this scent were 5 times as strong, it’s still not interesting to me. There are lots of better perfumes, like L de Lolita, for far less money and far better quality. I got absolutely nothing out of this that I’d hoped for, no trace of hay, no wheat at all. Definitely sample first, as this seems to be one of those instances when chemistry is everything.
mox777 – :
Straight from the bottle, I really do get the lovely apples and cereal scent that everyone raves about. But everything all comes down to skin chemistry, and on me, this disappears as soon as it dries. All I’m left with is something vaguely sweet that I can’t even smell unless I press my nose to my wrist. Amped up x10 this would be the most perfect, comforting gourmand ever. I’ll go weep bitter tears into my hot cereal now for the love that could have been between me and Lann-Ael.
ShIfsodis – :
This is comfort smell for the nose, soft and sweet,reminding one of those days as babies when we had our bottle and a zweiback toast to munch on or as an older child a glass of milk and a biscuit. A scent extraordinarily homey and comforting. It reminds me most of one of my favorite desserts, a lovely bread pudding with lots of warm milk. The drydown is more vanilla but still warm and really lovely. I want a bottle of this!
lqj510speagoessenda – :
This is great! The closest I have come to finding a milk fragrance.
The opening was slightly disappointing with all that greenish accord which might be a weird mixture of zesty apple and hay but then it soon evens out and I`m left with this delicious warm milk underlined with a touch of powdery vanilla. Creamy smooth, soft and gentle.
The price is affordable for a niche and it`s unique.
Definitely on my wishlist.
umbertijs – :
This does start of smelling like a bowl of Fruit Loops cereal for sure, but it settles quickly and as soon as it does it is divine. Softly fruity sweet, (though I wouldn’t say it smells particularly of apple at all) creamy smooth like warm milk and honey, this is very homey and relaxing, though a bit gourmand. I can completely understand people who say it makes them think of a mother and child, and it’s name, which means ‘Angel Heath’ seems very appropriate. Sillage is lovely and staying power very good, 6-8 hours or so, though linear. Can’t decide whether it’s full bottle worthy as I have a fragrance of a similar vein already, but a definite like.
adler-flamingo – :
it smells like an apple pie in a winter day…really delicious!!!
teutonik – :
Fruit Loops and hay in a bowl of milk to start, and then ultra dense vanilla crepes. This is truly a skin scent, one meant to be smelled on warm bodies by noses close enough to nuzzle; it feels wrong, somehow, to smell this sprayed over clothes. Ultimately Lann-Ael is too heavy for me to wear all over, but a little dabbed onto the crook of my arm every so often makes for a rare yet decadent treat.
Update: I have since purchased a full bottle of Lann-Ael and am in love. It does seem to have that odd characteristic where when I try to smell it by putting my nose up to my skin, it seems weak and barely present, yet at other times in the day, I’ll catch a strong whiff of deliciousness radiating from my wrist. I suspect that there’s some molecule in this fragrance that is so large that it temporarily causes anosmia by blocking receptors in the nose. All of that is to say, this is a gorgeous fragrance, but not one that should be reapplied feverishly throughout the day.
valensia4083 – :
This is exactly like incence sticks I once had. They came in a chique black and silver box and were called ‘super hit’. And for incense, this was quite something different…
The Lan-ael is cotton-candy-like sweet, but with great depth. Too heavy for me, though. By the way, I smell not a single apple. Hay, yes, but not ordinary hay. Pimped-up hay. Cotton candy cones made of it.
mick44 – :
Nutty, delicious almond biscotti.
KAPONE – :
This is amazing. It has a grainy sweetness that really does bring to mind hay, wheat, etc. It’s projection is not the best, or the intensity. However, it simmers quietly on the skin. Absolutely gorgeous. A good first step away from super sweet gourmands.
projekt111 – :
…I really love my Lann Ael… and I can’t wait to wear the body lotion… still 2 days and i’ll have my Lann Ael body Lotion again ;)))
It’s sweet and lovely..
bleXyidetle1986 – :
2nd review…
The more I wear this, the harder I scheme at ways to get my hands on more of it. It lasts and lasts and lasts on clothes. The first minutes are BEAUTIFUL to me. Soft, sweet, natural, and delicious. The sweet spice of hay and gentle nuttiness of cereal grains mixed with vanilla and cream. A touch of tart apple. Scrumptious, but mild. Not over the top like a teenage body spray. After a while, what’s left is milky vanilla and sweet butter, noticeable only to those with the privilege of being close. Alas, after only 2 hours, I need another spritz. But, that’s the draw of this stuff…I NEED another spritz. It’s as addictive as my mother’s spritz cookies. Now, if only I could find an extra, completely useless wad of money, amounting to exactly $85 plus tax and shipping.
Gdifikols – :
I obsessed over this for almost 2 weeks, but couldn’t justify the purchase. My little brother got me a 8ml decant for Christmas. It came today!
Sniffing the bottle, I was disappointed. It was…metallic. I spritzed once on my wrist, and out came sweet vanilla, crisp apple, and something like butter cookies, baked to a golden brown. The metallic note was still there, but faded after a few minutes…along with the whole rest of the fragrance.
This is SO FAINT. After 10 minutes, pressing my nose into my wrist brings me a *barely detectable* whiff of vanilla and brown butter. To get any enjoyment out of this, I’d have to reapply it all day, and with an $85 price tag, that just ain’t happenin’. It’s really a lovely fragrance, but it’s longevity is Not At All.
Videosis – :
This is not an oriental, this is gourmand. It smells, for me, too edible to actually wear this as a perfume as I would be afraid that someone will think that I work in a bakery and spend my days baking those lovely vanilla cookies. This smells exactly like vanilla cookies and sugar, there is the slight citrus touch, but mostly it’s vanilla + hay which makes everything even more smell like freshly baked cookies 🙂
Lovely smell, brings back memories, very cozy, comforting and with amazing quality, but, really, I love to sniff it, but smelling THIS edible? No.
dorohov48394839 – :
I am in love with Lann-Ael,the time I put my nose on my skin the same time I travel to my childhood when we were eating those yummy biscuits called “Miranda”,it also reminded my grandma who really love those biscuits.It’s an uplifting perfume and also very long lasting.Those who love vanilla and gourmand perfumes should try it.
rudoplon – :
This frag is really delicious, albeit light – I guess it could be called a skin scent? What a sincere pleasure to wear. I don’t get all of the complexity that some folks are getting, but I definitely get the vanilla! First on, it is very foody – like sugar cookie dough, yum. That’s the only part that is “gourmand.” The foodiness wears off fairly soon, and then I get a warm, creamy, milky, vanilla dusky-musky scent, I guess because of the “hay” or “wheat.” There’s too much green to me at the base to be cereal, but I can say that there is a smell in the summer that comes off of sun-warmed fields that this echoes, I looooove that part. I don’t get apple, although occasionally with wear, I catch hints of something tangy – could be apple, I guess. Lasts pretty well on me, most of the day, although it does not have much sillage. To my nose, it is similar to Coty’s Vanilla Fields, perhaps lighter and not synthetic. I prefer this one, but whatever fits your pocketbook!
igormetiz – :
when I smell it, I understand, how can people leave this world for the secret hills of tuatha de dannan… bewitching!
(I never thought I would tell it about confectionary fragrance) O_o
It makes me (well, and my husband, too) smile and sniff-sniff-sniff all the time. Just what I need at frosty gloomy January.
PS. The longevity is pretty nice for niche products – about 6-8 hours.
walegoannally – :
I LOVE IT!
It’s sweet but not nauseating, maybe because of apple.
In my opinion Lann-Ael smells exactly like my apple cake before baking: vanilla, lemon zest, fresh milk, butter, flour and apples.
Delicious and tender, it reminds me of childhood, when I used to cook with my beloved grandmother.
real notes are:
bergamot – lemon – tangerine – apple
jasmine – cotton flower
buckwheat – vanilla – milk
The body lotion is lovely, too!
maksak – :
Very cozy, yammy, eatable, sweet. For me is too much to wear it dayly but from time to time for mood increasing is wonderful! By the way it doesn’t live for a long time, so it is easy to wear.
Palamandx – :
Received this as a free sample from BeautyHabit along with an order and am so glad to have it. CremeBavaroise described it well; not sure why this isn’t categorized as a gourmand. Very yummy; I typically don’t like gourmand fragrances. To me, the vanilla is the strongest note but it is not cloying/sickening as in other fragrances. Would wear this on a Monday as a quick pick-me-up.
haimpl7 – :
Wonderful fragrance, soft and sweet, not overpowering. Smells like cereals with sweet vanilla milk, in my opinion, together with something fresh. Could be the hay, but I’m not sure. Not expensive, too…