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Бобус-Мобус – :
This preview is for the old Zibeline parfum extrait.
I etiquette this perfume as a piercing heavy, sophisticated and elegant essence, that was worn by wealthy women, who wore their fur coats in cold, snowy wither nights.
The fragrance starts off with strong aldehydes and animalic tones, such as civet and musk. Iris is there right from the start and stays firmly for hours, while tonga beens, ylang-ylang and rose follow. A light jasmine and gardenia breeze also adds its signature in this stage.
After its settling down, woody and oriental tones arise, such as sandalwood and coriander, flirting with citruses and honey.
I picture this perfume to be ideally worn by Hollywood female mega – movie stars in last century’s early ’20’s/30’s …. Theda Bara, Lillian Gish, Marlene Dietrich and Greta Garbo.
This is the kind of perfume that is distinctively old, but one that no perfume manufacturer would produce today, not only because the perfume tastes have changed dramatically, but also because they mostly use artificial essences now days rather, than pure essential oils.
If you have a rare fortune to find this on E-Bay, don’t miss the opportunity to make it yours. You might never have a second chance to find it again!
KVVV – :
It’s more like a light almond oil with bits of honey and big aldehydes. sandalwood oil, jasmines, amber, ylang, bits of gardenia, & coriander! It’s very light.
The civet, vetiver, iris, and musk are quite hazy and not direct! it has lemon, and lime as well, and the colder it goes the thicker it become.
It is really interesting as i can’t categorize it as an animalic blend cause i can’t really define what it is! maybe because it’s too old that the shape of the blend isn’t that clear as the notes are blended well and settled in a very captivating way… bits of each on a certain spaces and distances. very weird!
valera63 – :
spicy oriental with a powdery aspect with civet, sandalwood, tonka, maybe a hint of oakmoss/vetiver, rose, iris
konuk – :
This review is for the Vintage Zibeline. OMG! This is cold weather, fur wearing, date night, at it’s finest! Move over Bal A Versailles and Shocking ’cause Zibeline is in the room! At first dab I was shocked, and only because I thought my Bal V was a show stopper with it’s heavy civet, well boy was I wrong. This heavy makes every other animalic seem like a mere puppy dog. Starting off with severe aldehydes which linger for well over an hour and a half, I sense the floral, but she never commands attention because the civet rears it’s head from the beginning to end. I wish I could call this my new signature scent, but I will treasure this little dram until I can afford to buy a larger vintage bottle.
70691 – :
This review is for the vintage Zibeline bath oil. As a vintage lover, I am quite surprised that I am just now trying this. It’s a true classic. I get a lot of warm slightly spicy tarragon opening over powdery florals and civet. The spicy tarragon reminds me of vintage Dana Tabu, but more herbal and the powder reminds me of vintage Habanita.
All of the fragrances from this house were meant to compliment the furs from the Weil Furrier. If I had to guess, I’d say this fragrance was created for a fox coat. It’s so warm and cuddly, but also super sexy. There’s just enough civet in this to make it animalic, but not too much that it’s unwearable.
NITRODOOM – :
Review for parfum de toilette:
It may start with the last letter of the alphabet but Zibeline is first in my heart. Im confessing I geek out over this one and squeee over a bottle that newly arrived in my possession. Its about as old school as you can get and glam. This is not a wear for mild enthusiasts but for those vintage time travelers that can handle notes obsolete from current formulations. The bright herbal opening of the pdt seems less dense and less rich than the oil. However, it is still a powerhouse by todays standards. The oil was developed to prevent evaporation and designed to get stronger as it was worn. In the Pdt, it behaves more like a modern scent, average to big sillage and great lasting power. This isnt a demure fragrance. The opening lasts and lasts followed by the floral heart and sexy warm base notes. This is top shelf.
Secret de venus oil Zibeline
It opens herbal fresh with aldehydes, tarragon, coriander and citrus. Faint florals lilt within the powdery animalics. Tonka,vanilla with the sandalwood give it a warm almondy sweetness that flirts with gourmand.
So well blended and smooth. They don’t make it like this anymore and it’s a beautiful hallmark of its time, never vulgar, and can be worn today to stir intrigue.
Messk810InsuffBooni – :
I have pure parfum in the ’60s screw-top bottle Passionata describes, and I LOVE it. The juice, that is, not the bottle. I’m heading to Amsterdam next week, and in prep I’ve transferred my Zibeline to an old Mary Dunhill deco Scentinel container that is much more adorable and better for travel. I plan to smell like Zibeline every day in Amsterdam: warm, sexy, and very sophisticated. The top notes of my stash are long gone, and the heart is compromised, but, even so, the base almost by its lonesome makes me want to live with my wrist pressed to my nose. Would it be so wrong to dab a little above my upper lip?
Bambassogma – :
@ cwolf,
I am very familiar with the vintage version and recently had the opportunity to try the new version.
To my nose it is sadly a completely different perfume. The new new fragrance is very light, has no longevity and smells completely different to the original version.
I wish the perfume industry would stop this fraudulence.
The very same thing has happened with Patou pour Homme. The new version is not even recognisable.
Sadly, the same thing can be said for Zibeline.
obivan666 – :
Is anyone familiar with the new incarnation of this fragrance? I purchased a sample and was suprised how soft, woody and floral it was. Very nice, but not brash or that vintage vibe I was expecting. Could someone who knows both give me a comparison?
TincHurocrinY – :
Oh sweet powdery heaven!! I’ve been hoarding the last of the contents of my mid 60’s bottle until I find a reasonably priced replacement. This morning I had a very bad fragrance experience and needed something sure to lift the funk and my eyes spied this gem.
Such beautiful flowers, spices, warm,woody & resinous. I can’t thank enough that sophisticated older saleswoman at John Wanamakers so many years ago. In one day she introduced me to Zibeline and it’s sister, Secret de Venus. My bottle is Parfum de toilette, which in Zibeline I like better than the perfume oil. The oil is softer and not as peppy as this. The regular parfum is very nice too, but also very scarce.
Passionata, when I read your review I was sure that you must have a bad bottle, but in looking at your perfume dislikes, I think not. There are a lot of similarities between mid century Zibeline,Le Dix and Bal A Versailles. If you dislike the last two, you will probably never like Zibeline. All three have the prominent civet notes and similar flowery powder.
This is one vintage scent that I hope to always be able to find and afford. One of these days I will break down and try one of the newer formulas. Zibeline is one timeless, slightly wild yet classy broad!
912200 – :
Someone writes here below (or maybe under the comments of the remasterized version) that this perfume smells like wardrobe. Yes, it smells of mothballs, flavoured naphthalene, a bit Sagamore. At least initially. Then it turns into a toka bean honey-smoked, with animal tones. Persists the aspect “sweet grandmother closet” in my opinion. not for everyone. I do not suggest a blind buy. I’ve got a mignon of the parfum de toilette.
shooter1985 – :
15. january 2013
My review is for vintage Parfum de toilette, probably from 60´s. Square splash bottle with golden round srew on lid.
I am still fighting with this one…
I have problems with Chunga and i tend to think that Weil just don´t work for me i general.
The first time ever i have smelled “Zibeline” last year i was shocked! I read such amazing reviews about it, so was very eager to try it. First application shocked me in a bad way. EXTREMLY sharp and spicy in the very opening: vetyver, citrus and coriander welcome you with a blast! Kaboom! i am here! please wake up!
Then it quickly blends into a very powdery scent. I mean, it smells exactly like a vintage loose powder, no joking! Yes, still here is an oakmoss, but it is powder above all. So i disliked it very much after the first wear.
Then there was a second time after a long period of waiting. Still the same, but now i am prepared and expecting the bad news so i hold my breath and try to think positive. Well, not much of improvement, but it got me intrigued now. Something got me thinking…. So i decided to give it another chance and not to get rid of it yet.
Today is the third time. Just one application, like usual, one dab. Now i am really neutral towards it. I even begin to start to like the opening and the powder is not disturbing me so much anymore. It is still overwhelming all the other notes here, but now i smell the honey and a hint of civet even. I tend to sniff my arm again and again. It makes me want to go back for it, BUT still i can´t completly fight the powder.
I guess my fight will go on. And i don´t know who will win and who loose, but i will keep this one for some time and will search for vintage parfum, i bet it is much better.
My advice: this one is tricky, but give it a fair justice. this one is from 20´s of 20th century so it is a very vintage composition. And while i don´t like the whole composition yet and probably will have to try it many times more until i will probably grow to like it, i have to admit, that this a very high quality fragrance. The sillage is perfect! One dab (!!!) smells for days on your skin and weeks on your clothes. So the lasting power is also enourmous!
I´m still not giving up on Zibeline.
citrin – :
I recieved today two vintage bottles of pure perfume of Zibeline and I’m totally in love! I think they are from the ’60 s. What an overwhelming scent, fantastic!
The civet is not overdone, and I’m very happy with that. A lot of old perfumes have an very strong civet scent, and on me it smells like poop 😉
Zibeline gives me a very feminine smell with strong floral, woody accents. Last for hours and hours, I’m só happy I found it!
Meyil656Negeltzex – :
I also have this in the oil form, locked away in a very, very dark cupboard, and it is exactly the same. I only bring it out in the cold and darker months. I’m going to try and see if I can get it re-created SOMEHOW!
This a grown up scent. Originally designed to fragrance furs. So you can imagine the creator letting his imagination going to town. ‘Hmm what does womens fur smell like?’ It’s a very sexy scent. I don’t get the animalic smell so much. It is heaven in a bottle. It lasts forever on your skin, and I adore it. This nectar is an antedote to the sickly sweet water that is consuming the mass market.
vispa70 – :
I read the statement from Imore above about perfumes turning. The line that has Secret De Venus and Zibeline, I have noticed stay intact, as long as they were kept in the right environment, such as out of sun light, in a cool, dark area. I helped a friend find a 25 year old Secret De Venus and I was amazed it had remained exactly as she explained and expected. I spoke with a Prof Perfumer in England and he told me that although unusual, some raw materials can keep a scent intact for many years. They are naturally preservative, or prevent any bacteria due to the nature of the raw material. Typically this is only 15 years in the right environment. But the original Secret De Venus, as most know is no longer made. A terrible newer version now exhists that is nothing like the original. So perfume officionados, if you don’t mind paying the huge price and taking a chance, I do see it available on line. But personally, I would find a similar perfume. But again, you will be taking a chance. I also want to add that I have tried the Zibeline and the Secret De Venus oils. I love both. But honestly I can’t smell one note as stated above. It is just a beautiful soft warm light powder Ambery something on me. Can anyone please state the notes they actually are able to detect? I have the older version from 40 or more years ago. I also want to say, I have the spray, that smells bad (old alcohol) when applied, but after a minute smells beautiful.
vlad-bakurov – :
Absolutely beautiful fragrance. I just received my zibeline today. I have to say another classic I’m in love with. Simply old school to my nose. I don’t know how the original formulation smells but this formulation is simply georgouse, sophisticated, soft and femenine with great elegance.
Lauddegemaing – :
I have the remains of a bottle of Zibeline Secret of Venus – this form was akin to a bath oil, low on alcohol and warmer smelling than eau de parfum. It came in a bottle with sides that curved inward from the bottom and top. I bought my bottle in 1977 and today, the little that is left smells EXACTLY as it did when new. According to Joan Juliet Buck, former editor of French VOGUE, men often wore Zibeline in the 1950s.
wcbankir – :
I am totally with Imoore here! I have perfume bottles from the 60’s (Madame Rochas) and they only whished they could make perfume as good as back then…..
ska3ka – :
I don not understand the raves about old perfumes being intact!
Alcohol preserves most of the real ingredients and if it is kept in a COLD DARK place it can last and last.
Does Perfumes Have an Expiration Date?
NO, UNLESS KEPT BADLY, AND THEREFORE THEY TURNED!
starik – :
I am cheating on CHUNGA with this fragrance, and beating myself up for it!
Every woman deserves a Zibeline perfume!
(I would not put the fur on though!)
Meres1k – :
Some vintage scent doesn´t suit me at all but some do. Problem is that it´s hard to know before trying and they´re not the easiest thing sampling either since one formulation can different from another so very much…
I bought a vintage bottle of Zibeline unsniffed only based on reviews and kept my fingers crossed that it would suit me and…
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it is glorious. A masterpiece of long time gone elegance, femininity and refinement. My bottle are at least about 50 years old, still it has zingy top notes of bright citrus mixed with some sweet and creamy notes,the floral notes chimes in and add a powdery softness, but built under with real deal amber and civet!
This is so cool, I enjoy it so much and for being a vintage this is not at all dated or difficult to wear, I can very well imagine that it suit women in all ages. If you happen to stumble upon a vintage bottle of Zibeline it´s really a must in any perfume collection.
buza – :
Are you experienced? If so,then consume some giggle water and take a trip back in time with this “Real McCoy” of a fragrance. THINK: Roaring 20’s with the guys in their zoot suits and the dolls in their flappers. THINK: of “Putting on the Ritz” while wearing sumptuous Parisian ermine or imperial Russian sable. Are you ready to dive in for some real razzmatazz? If so then lay on some vintage “hotsy-totsy” Zibeline for the ride of your life, no doubt it’s the “cat’s meow”!
The extrait of this timeless animalic scent with it’s leathery, buttery, woody amber is a retro explosion that should be savored. In all it’s glory it is powerful and sexy and although some define it’s buttery richness as skanky I beg to differ and say more “swanky”! With it’s subtle fruit and floral combination this civet pronounced wonder is the “living end”
In conclusion, because of the change of ownerships and the reformation of this scent, which unfortunately is a mere reflection of the original aroma, I highly recommend all perfume collectors to pass on the current formulation and scour the market to obtain an original bottle of this keen copacetic creation.
masania87 – :
I like this perfume, and I am bordering on love.
It’s spicy, wich is my favorite style of all time. It’s airy- but the base notes make it weighty, too, so the compostion doesn’t float away. At first it reminded me of Norell, because of it’s complexity and heaviness. At moments it reminds me of Gucci eau de parfum because of the taragon in combo with the other spices being similar to caraway in Gucci, and because of Zibelienes resionous qualities.
However, Zibeliene is much more refined, sofisticated, and delicate than the afformentioned…and any others that it reminds me of. Great balance in the composition, the variety of spices aren’t fading, it’s all lively and full of charachter. I get a bit of a hippie vibe here too, and I want to say “I dig it !”
Ah, and I suppose I am just realizing it now. What a unique touch-aldehydes on spicy, earthy, and thick notes. This is great. I like it more than Coco Chanel that I tested recently. Yes, Coco is wonderful, but, it didn’t change much, it’s prescence wasn’t as noticeable or intriguing for me in the way that Zibeline is. Oh, yes, and no vanilla here..
Yes, Strange review here. Nothing monotone, simple, or exaclty something I can describe with one tone, or idea, one direction of how to describe it.
Versus669 – :
Simply a classic in perfumery standards.
Fantastic.