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SakSaGan – :
This is an interesting neroli and green tea fragrance that gets progressively warmer with time with a note of vanilla increasing after initial application. The opening (which lasts for a few hours) is like al-Rehab Green Tea, but that is lemon with green tea while this is neroli with green tea. Oddly I also get a faint fig note. Sillage is moderate while longevity is moderate at about 5 hours. Overall the scent is nice and leans a bit feminine but is still unisex in my opinion. If I didn’t have other neroli fragrances which I like better, I’d give this a higher score.
3.5/5
5520790 – :
Kanak and No-fi took the words right out of my mouth so I would just be repeating the same thing. It’s an extremely artistic creation and if neroli is a note that doesn’t really excite you, you’re in for a surprise. I sure as hell was surprised with this beauty and if I dare say “masterpiece”.
Projection: 5/5 (6 feet for the first 6 hours then about three feet after that it never becomes a skin scent)
Longevity: 5/5 (12 hours-26 hours on my skin)
Uniqueness: 4.5/5 for all its complexities
Scent: 5/5
Overall
19.5/20
flamyri – :
This is a lovely unisex concoction that relies heavily on neroli/orange blossom/petitgrain, which makes it perfect for Spring/Summer in my opinion. Lasts 5+ hours with one spray, and I do get glimpses of the tea note mixed in there as well as the ambrette and benzoin, which keeps this from smelling too much like bathroom cleaner. I get no smoke and honestly very little vanilla, but overall I like this one. Definitely unisex, especially compared to some of the other Guerlain offerings of late.
Sash HD – :
I have a vial sample only so I have tried it just a couple of times. I can barely detect the neroli on my skin as the tea note dominates entirely. It’s subtle and low key, the fragrance you’d turn to when you don’t want to smell like you’re wearing fragrance.
Not at all my type of fragrance, only because tea notes aren’t my thing, however, I acknowledge the beauty of this composition.
shnur145 – :
A stunning tea scent from Guerlain’s L’Art et La Matiere collection – basically olfactory art created through the use of the finest raw materials available. Outrenoir – ‘beyond black’- referring to the smokey black tea note which is exquisite. Bergamot, tangerine, grapefruit and lemon fuse and sparkle amid the darker tea. Next to their juicy vigor, the neroli and orange blossom have a powdery effect, and the whole is a rich explosion of blended beautiful accords.
I couldn’t get enough of the fragrance, continually sniffing my arm for more! I’ve been systematically trying new tea centric perfumes, and this is one of the best.
This is a gorgeous fragrance from Thierry Wasser, Guerlain’s in-house nose. Some of my favorites of his work are the Les Deserts d’Orient collection, and the exotic Shalimar Ode a la Vanille Sur le Route du Mexique. His ability to weave complex accords that tantalize the senses is superb.
Sillage is soft, so heavy application is my approach, even dousing my hair so the scent surrounds me. FB in my near future!
morevgv – :
Not a clone but very similar to the affordable Teazzurra, which has just been brought back to production.
Ghost_oS – :
Hmmm…I see this fragrance is in the citrus aromatic category, but it feels more straight-up floral to me. The initial citrus blast dissipates within milliseconds. Next phase is quite strong: tea, smoke (my husband likens it to pipe tobacco, which I like) and some neroli. This settles down to an interesting tea/neroli combo (usually tea doesn’t linger but, happily, this one does), warmed by a touch of vanilla. I’ve been wanting to sample this for a while. Glad I did. It’s a cold, grey, miserable day here, and this “citrus aromatic” is very wearable.
kupviagru – :
Very special indeed … a bit like a scented version of one of those optical illusions where your brain flits between two completely different interpretations of the same image (is it a glass or two people in profile? Ducks or fishes? that sort of thing.) My brain toggles between getting greenish-smoky tea and bright clean citrus from this, with both aspects done with impeccable taste and deeply deeply satisfying as well as staying intriguing. Only got a tiny spritz of this amid a department store sniffing rampage so I need to go back to it in spring before deciding to jump or not – it’s far too expensive to be an impulse buy – but it has tickled my nose in all the right ways. Just hugely seductive.
ETA: got a FB as a present and falling for it all the way, baby – its true magnificence comes out when you’ve had time to wear it on different days and see how it plays. Applied generously enough the longevity will stretch to 9-10h and it cycles fascinatingly from tea to citrus to tea to deliciously sweetly-powdery, almost earthy amber notes underneath, wisps of smoke drifting through, but all in a contained and discreet forcefield of loveliness all around you. Also presents different facets in different temperatures / humidity. At some moments it even seems to have a bizarre, yet welcome, sort of toasted-rice or other cereal note to it – which sounds horrid but isn’t. That sweet, earthy, vanilla-tinged amber effect at the end hangs on for absolutely aaaages and is a delicious closing chapter, too.
This is just *SO* good. Don’t write it off after a first sniff as just a ‘light, short-lived, overrated and overpriced citrus” like I almost did. It is so so so much more.
Gizmo-TC – :
Guerlain’s Neroli Outrenoir is a release that’s a part of their ‘luxe’ (never mind whatever that’s actually named) line. Neroli Outrenoir delivers an initial brisk bergamot show that lasts all of seconds. The plot moves over to an accord of neroli with smoky black tea, with some ambrette seeds that impart some dark musky nuances. Fairly linear, there is a slow transformation as the orange blossom subsides a little gradually, and the accord of ambrette seeds and myrrh becomes prominent, though the myrrh plays a supporting cast to the neroli-tea-ambrette seed triad. Neroli Outrenoir has close but perceptible projection, and lasts reasonably well on skin.
While Neroli Outrenoir brings something a little new to the canon of neroli fragrances, it is seriously compromised by what appears as the handling of the composition. The elements are too densely blended, lacking enough separation. The resulting neroli-tea-ambrette accord is dull, murky, and doesn’t flatter on the Guy Robert test. As neroli compositions, Seville A L’Aube or Fleurs d’Oranger are far more convincing, whereas one would suggest Philtre Ceylan as an example of a smoky black tea done right.
2.5/5 (neutral)
Valentina_53 – :
This is a nice tea/floral fragrance. On the first spray, you can smell neroli and tea. But then the neroli disappears and you’re left with the tea note that has a hint of sourness. If it was not for the sour note, I’d consider purchasing it.
vadim1806 – :
Neroli Outrenoir is quite the mercurial shapeshifter. It isn’t truly a citrus floral, a tea-heavy aromatic, or an incense oriental – it’s all three.
It starts with a sweet, bright blast of citrus and florals, with a touch of herbal petitgrain. The eponymous neroli is there, but it never shouts above the orange blossom and citrus fruits that surround it.
A short while into the opening, a robust tea note emerges. It’s definitely a black tea – perhaps the inspiration for the outrenoir name – but it defies easy categorisation. There’s a touch of smoke that hints at toasted Lapsang Souchong, while the bergamot suggests Earl Grey, without explicitly smelling like either. The tea note comes to dominate in the heart, putting paid to any expectations that Neroli Outrenoir is a straight neroli scent.
Then Neroli Outrenoir does another U-turn into unexpected territory. As it dries down, a transparent resinous incense comes to the fore. It’s sweet and slightly smokey, with tea-like facets. A white musk – or should that be an ashy grey musk? – also becomes more prominent.
There’s still one more plot twist waiting, however. Just as you’re expecting the credits to roll, the neroli comes surging back into the fore, in full concert with the resinous base. It’s as marvelous as it is unexpected.
Overall, Neroli Outrenoir can come across as somewhat confused. From sweet and light to resinous and slightly brooding, it flits from one impression to the next. Fortunately, it remains easy to wear, if not easy to define. I appreciate Neroli Outrenoir’s uniqueness – I only wish it was as easy to love as it is hard to pin down.
LasPapas – :
Cytrynki..i lemonka na pierwszy plan.
Piekny jest. Kojarzy mi sie z eleganckim wyjsciem do symfonii.
mqz713JeomiWogkig – :
I love this collection so much I ordered this blind and I’m so glad to report that I am not disappointed. It’s really good! It’s been compared to Teazzurra, and while I’ve never tried it, Teazzurra has been compared to Tokyo, which I own, so I can say they share that exact same tea note. The dry downs of Toyko and Outrenoir are similar only on that tea note. Outrenoir is much sweeter and thick with vanilla and myrrhe. Side by side, it makes Tokyo feel bitter and tart.
I’m usually not crazy about citrus frags, which I usually find too fleeting, too squeaky clean, a bit boring, and typically only appropriate for Summer. Outrenoir is a bit heavier, thicker, creamy, and lasts 12 hours strong. It’s almost gourmand, like a frozen orange dreamsicle cocktail blended with thick vanilla Licor 43, Grand Marnier, homemade vanilla ice cream, and fresh squeezed juice.
This fragrance is somewhat of a dichotomy as the elements speak of Summer with the citrus and orange blossom but also of Winter with the myrrh and smokey incense, but it works really well. I can see myself wearing this year round. Bravo! ❤
davog7777 – :
Hermès and Guerlain have both introduced new neroli perfumes into their line-ups this year. Hermès’s golden neroli Cologne (Eau de Néroli Doré) suited a summer launch and brought to mind sun, tanned skin and escapism. Guerlain skipped the gold and went for the black.
“Outrenoir” (translated as ultra-black or beyond black) is a painting method practiced by Pierre Soulages. Textured, dense black paint absorbs and refracts the light that strikes it. Black is the mirror that reveals color, even if it doesn’t directly reflect it. Name aside, there’s not a hint of darkness to Néroli Outrenoir. The top has a sweet, resinous touch that’s a hair’s breadth away from gourmand. Sweet but not saccharine. A lightly vanilla-smoked tea note matches the neroli and makes a neo-Earl Grey tea accord that is more floral and higher pitched than the traditional bergamot-tea pairing.
The vanillic-smoke gives the tea presence, but it runs quiet for a foreground note. It gives the fragrance an aromatic lift and bridges the orange flower to the woodiness of petitgrain. It’s a prominent component of the perfume’s central accord, but noir it ain’t. Apparently beyond black lies pastel.
Neroli Outrenoir creates a luminous if soft-focus hesperidic image. Neroli, bergamot and petitgrain are the flower, fruit and leaves that create the portrait of citrus tree. It’s not a particularly new trick. This citric mix combined with the soft musk is not far from the recipe for Eau de Cologne, and Guerlain’s own Eau Impériale has a prominent neroli note. It’s not a Cologne per se, but if I were told that Neroli Outrenoir was an Aqua Allegoria, I wouldn’t hesitate to believe it. It’s a version of the two-note accord that the Aqua Allegorias have mastered. Simple, pretty and non-threatening in equal measure.
The resinous touch at the beginning of Wasser’s Néroli Outrenoir could have been used to create a bit of shadow. Instead it segues seamlessly into the recognizable framework of a white musk base (Guerlain list ambrette seed.) The gentle haze does suit the perfume’s soft touch, but it reads like a slo-mo landing on soft pillows. It reassures you that any challenge or threat (or exuberance or inspiration) that might have been found in the topnotes has been redacted and you can rest your head easy. It reads as a concession.
This dénouement-style of drydown has become Guerlain’s feminine marker. Witness the line of perfumes from l’Instant and Idylle through the Shalimar Parfums Initiales and the Robes Noires. It is the feminine counterpart to the masculine ‘boisée sec’ style found in the Guerlain Hommes and Idéals. Guerlain’s uniform, conservative rectangular bottle for the boys and dated, fussy bee bottles for the girls are a regrettable acquiescence to a reactionary, proscriptive understanding of gender. But they are at least a candid outward indication of what’s been going in inside the bottles for a while.
(from scenthurdle.com)
хакеРмен – :
After testing 2 or 3 samples of this Neroli I finally bought the bottle. Indeed, it needs more than a few spritzes to develop it’s full potential. The reviewer “originaldeftom” is right about the mechanism & design of the bottle: hope that someday they’ll go back to the former spraying system of this niche line.
The neroli takes 1 to 3 hours to take the lead of this complex scent, as the fruity top and the tea notes are dominant for quite a while after application. But then it lasts and lasts, for>10 hours or more depending on temperature. So this parfume actually is in fact “neroli beyond black” (tea) which is the translation from French.
A very nice winter parfume, when you can pick up the lemons from your trees and long for the spring to come ! Thanks Guerlain.
zjbiprogr – :
These days for most of us fragheads, the first thing we do when we hear another Neroli fragrance is yawn but trust me, this is really worth checking out. Beautiful composition.
It has a very bright citrus opening layered with the petitgrain note, giving it a very green feeling. Some of the citrus notes from the opening stick around and mingle with the heart notes as well. It is really lovely. The “Noir” part of the fragrance comes in the next stage when the Black tea and neroli mingle with the orange blossoms giving a slight floral edge. This conceptualisation is brilliant and gives this fragrance depth and substance where most neroli frags end up being airy-fairy wisp like things. The notes from the base like Myrrh and oakmoss start blending in but this Neroli-tea heart stays potent for a long time. I dont get any vanilla but there is a hint of sweetness in the end of the dry down which is probably the benzoin n ambrette. In summation, this is a dark Neroli fragrance and if that sounds intriguing, trust me Neroli Outrenoir does not disappoint.
Projection and longevity are good like most of the Guerlain Niche line. 8-10 hours range and this is again testing from a sample with small spritzes. If you have any sort of interest in Citrus/ Neroli or even Tea notes, please do not miss out on this little gem.
кенвуд1976 – :
This is more about the tea and citrus-green than neroli.. smells really good, but quite disappointed
rortcrasoup – :
The Guerlain is an interesting historical maison to observed from the point of view of their releases because they seems to capture in themselves much of what has become the standard in the market: the need for exclusive lines, the frenetic pace of releases, trying to have several faces for different publics and the fragile line between what is really commercial and what is niche. This fact has always been in the DNA of the L’Art et Matière line, which has excellent perfumes, sophisticated and modern in its most direct approach to certain materials, but in many cases they are still creations that could be more in more selective or premium brands. The new launch in this line, Neroli Outrenoir only illustrates and confirms this aspect.
I could never buy the idea of a Neroli perfume in exclusive lines. Even knowing that the absolute can reach a very high value, the taste since the beginning of perfumery for citrus scents led over time to the development of good accords of this flower so rarely a exclusive Neroli perfume sounds very spectacular in exclusive lines, although always they seem a little more refined. In this composition, there is an attempt of the brand to make it more exclusive and luxurious with a proposition for a game of contrasts between the brightness of the floral Neroli and a darker base where the absolute of black tea has an important role.
The fact is that Neroli Outrenoir on skin shows to be much more brighter than dark and even that tough it’s nice and multifaceted it doesn’t really add much to what we already know of the flower. Its aroma opens emphasizing the juiciest aspect of orange and the green side of the leaves, without being, however, very sweet. Gradually its makes room for a floral body where the cleaner and citrus of Neroli seems to divide space with a more carnal orange blossom and jasmine touches, and these last two are unfortunately very discreet and do not bring the scent to a field more sensual and extravagant.
What I find most interesting in Neroli Outrenoir it is that it slowly appears on the skin a kind of woody accord which reminds of pencil chips. This is the blackest part you will find of the scent on the skin as the black tea aroma shown more discreet, something with some patchouli earthiness and a subtle resinous aspect perhaps, but that only comes to life when the body temperature heats up considerably. Otherwise, it remains close to the skin and creates a base of tea that seems more suited for a Bvlgari perfume than for a Guerlain.
In the end, like many of the perfumes in this line, I feel divided regarding to its smell. I like, it is pleasurable to smell it until the end, but it is missing something really exciting that makes me want a bottle. It is a perfume that certainly pleases and can generate a first sale, but will the combination of aroma and price be enough to generate loyalty and prevent its passage through the line to be transitory? I sincerely do not know.
erlas – :
I was gifted a sample today. It is a true beauty! I don’t care about citrus and often I can’t wear them – they turn male’ish on my skin. This one doesn’t!! Perfect for warm weather, perfect when you want to be descrete, perfect when you want to tease. Its one of very few scents including citrus that I can say wow about. But yet its not me, not my taste of how I want to smell. But I’m happy to tried it.
Jag fick ett prov idag. Det är en otroligt vacker doft. Jag bryr mig sällan om citrus-dofter för de blir ofta manliga på mig. Denna blir inte manlig! Perfekt för varmt väder, Perfekt när du vill vara diskret, Perfekt när du bara vill retas doftmässigt med andra. En av väldigt få dofter som innehåller citrus som jag kan säga wow om. Ändå är den inte jag, inte min smak alls hur jag vill dofta. Men är otroligt glad att kunnat få prova den.
bannonw – :
Tried this on skin today and all I can say is “CAPTIVATING”!
Thierry Wasser is a genius and his collaboration with Delphine Jelk proves to go from strength to strength. The last and 3rd version of “L’Homme Ideal” was the equivalent of putting the Cullinan Diamond into the crown of its trilogy.
Now, with new combined efforts of 2 noses and 4 nostrils, both dropped a massive comeback of the slightly forgotten >>L’Art et Matiere<< Collection that has not seen a new release for a coupe of years and then THIS fantastic creation lands like a UFO from outer space.
It is indeed “outlandishly beautiful” and I would compare it with a Garden Eden, a secret place of mystery and new discovery. It smells of a brand new plant discovery because the well known neroli is so unusually juxtaposed against the petit grain, oakmoss, ambrette and tea….but it is really that earthy, smokey note that makes it so compellingly other-wordly.
I am being somewhat reminded of “Bamboo Harmony” by Kilian, but I much more prefer this, both in execution, creativity, blending and longevity.
Imagine having a cup of some fancy and posh black, smoked Darjeeling or Oloong tea, bang in the middle of a dense Java rainforest as you come out onto a clearing. As the sun is cutting through the dense banana and palm fronds, you see a pond with the most unusual and delicate flowers, releasing this unusual frangrance you have never smelled before.
This stuff smells green, exotic, wet, floral (unfamiliar), and progressively different.
Verdict: Scent 10/10 for a modern citrus/ green/ aromatic masterpiece that has never been done before this way and actually lasts very well.
Packaging is very unfortunate and awkward, as it is a tall slimline glass bottle with this old-fashioned balloon hand pump device that needs to be unlocked first atop the top cap. It is not a clever design, neither very practical. Perhaps you should just create something easy to use, with an old-wordly look that can be refilled and thus be kinder to the environment? Guerlain? Hellloooooo!
ps1563797 – :
Off the top I get a lot of petitgrain with a surge of bergamot which is followed by a smoky mix of tea and myrhh. After a while when the scent takes to the air it suddenly opens up and I can smell the neroli within the mix. At this stage it does smell very nice and enchanting, imagine smoky tea notes mixing in with neroli and earthy myrhh. I can see what Thierry Wasser was trying to do offsetting the neroli note with smoky tea and myrhh notes.
Also I think he has captured the tea note quite beautifully, you can smell the bitter and smoky aspect. And when this mixes in with the neroli it’s quite lovely. I think how much you love the tea accord is going to determine how much you like this one. For me I love it.
For me on my skin the tea and smoky earthy notes are more dominant than the neroli. And that’s why to my nose I perceive it more on the masculine side, definitely unisex though. Talking about the neroli note I find it more subdued and that it takes a backseat to the smoky earthy tea accord. Though when it makes itself known it is quite lovely.
Though the neroli comes through more when the smoky earthy tea notes calm down a bit. But this is not a full bodied dominant neroli scent, it’s more subtlety weaved providing a contrast to the other notes. Very nice fragrance.
moroz1012 – :
Neroli Outrenoir translates to neroli from beyond black. The squeaky clean and vibrant nature of the neroli note has been juxtaposed with a dark, earthy tea and myrrh combination that creates a somewhat mystical incense that is undeniably intoxicating. The scent lingers close to the skin on myself but it’s one of those fragrances that is enjoyed best personally or when others are close to you. Very cosy and will be perfect for the upcoming Winter months.
ruki71 – :
I just can’t wait to try this!